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Actually, yeah... that would be fun to watch... lol
Too bad the natives didn't have the technology to do that in the ol' days when they were slaughtered by the illegal immigrants of that time...

While you are at it, deport back here every mexican immigrant you got there... let's see if you economy doesn't get some...

I know I have a pretty face, but what does that have to do with my comments?

But seriously, if you want to call me a Fascist, I'm not even sure if it's worthy of response because it's so ridiculously preposterous.

I'm a right of center Libertarian at the least; A moderate conservative at the most.

How many times do I have to detest Fascism for you to get the point? At least I am capable of calling out and denouncing the "extreme" elements of the "right wing" (I've always maintained Fascism to be in a wing of it's own). Have you ever criticized the extreme elements of the left wing, such as Marxism/Communism, Lenin/Stalin, China, North Korea, Cambodia, Cuba etc..etc..etc..? I mean, where do you think all of these Socialist ideas you love stemmed from?

Do you think I'm a Fascist because I'm not afraid to call things like how they are or how I see them, often at the expense of political correctness? I called out the Arab population of France as being out of control a long while ago, and guess what? It couldn't have been played out and displayed to the world under any kind of clearer circumstances. Calling out France for having a problem with their Arab population was not me being Fascist; It was me being dead-on correct and you know it.

But hey, if you want to be in denial about that it's fine with me. I can only imagine all of the personal anguish and torment you must be going through just knowing how right I was.

Yeah, I would have loved to see some of those imperialistic colonizing European bastards get zapped by "The Wall" a few times, but oh well.



Well, considering the fact that the majority of illegal Latin immigrants are concentrated in the 4 border states, it probably wouldn't be too taxing on our economy in the long run. There are 50 states in the union and illegal immigrants only perform jobs in about 4-6 different industries. Americans and legal workers handle these tasks just fine in the other 46 states, so how crippling would it really be?

It would probably be more beneficial to the economy and government services when you consider the amount of money the tax payers have to spend on illegal immigrants (very few of whom pay taxes themselves) every year. Jail/prison systems, judicial process, money that's drained from our economy because it's sent back to Mexico, health care, schooling, bilingual private and government employees/school classes/road signs and other Spanish-language concessions that cost money, DHS related matters (border patrol, deportation etc) which drains billions of dollars of federal tax revenue every year...I could go on but you probably get the point.

I've worked with undocumented Mexicans on several occasions and most of them were good, honest, hard working people. I totally sympathize with their plight, and fully understand their motivation for illegally immigrating. On the other hand, they did illegally immigrate, and that's obviously a violation of law. As a citizen, when I violate the law I go to jail or get fined. When these guys violate the law by jumping the border, they get off scot-free. It's a huge slap in the face to the people who entered the country legally by doing the right thing and obtaining a visa regardless of how difficult it may have been.

Let's not even discuss the complete vulnerability this debacle poses to our national security. Absolutely unbelievable.

It's pretty sad when a mod lets a blind eye and a deaf ear overshadow better judgement and forum rules time and time again.

I think all three of these persons (Burn, Cerebus, PHM) should be banned from here.

Happy New Year to everyone else!

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How did things here turn from an innocent happy new years greeting to a social/poltical debate????

I am getting a bit tired of those people who are using a message board of a musical group into their own political forum. Like I have said before, there are other forums to discuss those things. Or at least make your own topic about it so I can ingonre it.
I just want to visit this forum and read about the Gathering, other peoples music choices/preferences and all that kind of light stuff to read. I think that is the whole intend of this board to begin with.
I am not saying every post has to be light and funny, of course there should be room for more serious things but I find it very unpleasant to see a topic like this turning into some political debate.
That is not what this forum is about and I hope people will recognise that and keep their political (and religious for that matter) opinions to themselves and discuss those things where it is more appropriate.
I wouldn't mind if the moderators would be more strict in keeping these things from happening, by banning, locking the topic or removing posts that are clearly made for the sole purpose of evoking bad/nasty comments.

And start by locking this topic, it has no onger anything to do with what it started out with and it is quickly degrading into an endless discusion where everybody has their own opinion and everybody is right.

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lmao, I love seeing PHM try to defend his own unique stupidity to about 7 different users. Comedy.

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Come back to me when you have your own native language then, or learn English with more proficiency.

Once again, as this applies to every post you are making at the moment. Stop being so precious. Learn to have a sense of humour, or at the very least learn how to control your outrage. And since you deny that you are "bothered" by these messages, stop lying to yourself. Lying is a Sin (of Arcadia).

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Can't we all just get a bong?

I'm sorry, but those immigrants picking fruits under the blazing sun in your southern states do affect pretty much every other state that consums fruits. Of course it would be taxing for your economy! Why do you think illegal immigrants are chosen to do those jobs? Because no one else wants to do them! I mean, a legal american resident would have to be really stupid to take 1 of those jobs for what they are paying now.
So if you deport them either 2 things will happen:
1- americans won't take those jobs, that industry will collapse.
2- americans will take those jobs but will demand higher salaries, healthcare, etc... all those things that make a job a decent one. There might even be unions! How much do you think those salads you enjoy so much will cost now?



Sure, compare that to your incredibly bright idea:
"I proposed dual 10,000 watt electric barbed-wire fences with landmines between them and armed guards staged every quarter mile to my congressional representative." Your idea is soooo much cheaper
Do you really think a wall is going to keep immigrants out? There are tunnels (which are already being used), coasts (which are already being used), etc...


Right, I completely see your sympathy... Specially with those land mines...



I might be mistaken, but I think those who did 9/11 were in the US legally, am I right?

i probably burnt as many cars as the amount of iraqis you murdered daft bitch, i had been in a different country for 2 months when this started. and fiats are italian stupid cunt



well if they really wanted to watch me taking a crap, then theyd have to find out where paris is first, and from what ive seen, theres a fair amount of americans who've been skipping too many geography classes. and man, its not so hard to look up on a map and copy the towns name, even your mum could do that. and whats the use of all that oh so superior technology in iraq? the US army can watch muhamed iraqi take a shit in his bathroom but they cant keep the country under control



you know whats funny about the way the american media treated those riots. such things happened a few times before over the past 15 years, and i doubt any of those channels bothered then. but since 9/11 the yanks found out about arabs and have been obsessing about islam ever since then. and anyway yeah i surely know much more about immigration in france than you ever will so why dont you just sit and have a nice cup of shut the f*ck up instead of trying to outsmart me heh?

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woah man youre so clever and above us and playing in a different league, im soooo impressed

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stay out of this!

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You stay out of this.
This is a topic for anybody that wants to wish people here a happy new year. And since I have not seen you do that, either do so or post your oh so clever remarks elsewhere.
You are so hilarious, I just can't stand it anymore........ ah, never mind. I will never be able to make such witty remarks and feel superiour to the rest, like you. It's not worth it anyway.

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CRAPPY NEW YEAR, P.H.M!!!

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Ahh, then you only burned about one quarter the amount of cars as dead Iraqis due to French politicians exploiting the Oil for Food program. I'm glad you didn't take your vandalism to that extent. Thanks for the clarification.

And a genuine heartfelt thanks for the "daft bitch" comment. I was trying to prove a point to the moderators on this forum and your response was right on the money with what I anticipated.



Well excuse me. I seemed to have gotten my motorized rollerskates you Europeans pass off as automobiles mixed up.

Allow me to correct myself and rephrase that:

So, how many Molotov cocktails and Peugeots were you able to unite in holy matrimony while escaping France?

That better? Also thanks once again for the "stupid cunt" comment. You are pure gold.



Exactly how difficult do you think it was for Americans to find Paris in 1944/45? Oh and we found plenty of other towns while on our way there as well. None of which would probably be on the map now had we not rebuilt it all.



I said the U.S. can pinpoint your location and watch you fondle your genitals via GPS. I didn't say the U.S. and it's satellites can predict what Muhommad Iraqi is going to do 5 minutes from now.

And if you think an improvised explosive device going off on the side of the road in Iraq every other day constitutes chaos I suppose we could apply the same standard of definition to good ole France as well. You know the car burning still hasn't quite subsided yet? And it probably won't either, since this isn't exactly a new phenomenon. You can't even stop this kind of rampant lawlessness and unrest in your own country, and you want to criticize the U.S. government for not being able to stop some insane suicide bombing jihadist in a foreign land?

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First of all, a happy new year to all of you

Please stay on-topic *happy new year*, otherwise I have to remove off-topic posts or even close this topic...

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10/10

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Tesam evanukampartham
Aham ajnana-jam tamah
nasayamy atma-bhava-stho
jnana-dipena bhasvata

oh id rather not play that game in your position, uncle sam. if you want to play that time-machine game, american history is even worse than all european countries together. like for exemple, who sold weapons to the talibans in the 80s? only to fight them 20 years later?



ah thats alright, youre just an idiot who doesnt know shit about europe and pretends to do so to impress his little american mates who dont know much either. and anyway the japanese and south corean cars will soon take over the market.



once again youre sentenced to lose at that time machine game. if europe hadnt found out the new wolrd 500 years ago, youd just be driving another of those motorized rollerskates like all of us here. but thats alright.



apparently they cant predict what the Sydney Gang-member from LA is gonna do either, cause some part of some american towns are in a proper mess too.



what about the criminality and daily violence in american suburbs? you dont want me to compare french criminality figures and american ones do you

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