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PostPosted: 04 Feb 2005, 00:04 
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Tristania - Ashes

After a long time without releasing anything, it seems that Tristania has released at last "Ashes", their new album.

I haven't got the chance to listen to it because it hasn't been released in Spain yet although I'm very anxious...since World of Glass there hasn't been any news from the band except that the side band of Morten Veland (Sirenia, which btw sounds very good).

Anyone has listened to the new album? Some people have told me that the new sound is a bit different than the one of World of Glass, and that it has more Doom elements and melodic parts. Any opinion?

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Well, in reply to someone's question on another forum, this is what I said about Ashes:

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Yes, it's a new album. It differs in some ways from the Morten Veland era albums, and from World of Glass. I read a review in the UK magazine Zero Tolerance (a fun little magazine about extreme music, available every two months in your average mainstream newsagents/bookstore - W. H. Smith, for example). The review suggests that this album is less aggressive than its predecessors. I think it should have read "less aggressive on balance", because the album opens with aggression, and there's plenty more to be found. The opening is interesting, because for me it places this album in a strange middle ground between "doom metal" and "black metal". I say "strange" because while there are certainly black metal touches on this one, there's also some almost "mainstream rock" guitar work. That again is hard to define, but the various repeated-note sequences - while not being obviously and directly suggestive - just could have come from the repertoire of The Edge. Let's say it's imaginable, but no more than that, and I may be making the wrong associations.

Overall, I think the band have tried to find some new territory, while at the same time revisiting some old territory. I've played the album a few times now and it's growing on me.

An interesting touch: I have the digipack version, which features a bonus track, but the bonus track is placed within the original track order: it pops up as track 7 out of 9. This suggests to me that they had some kind of concept in mind, although I can't say that it's obvious.

The packaging is interesting too - not overwhelmingly "gothic". All in all, hints of an attempted "crossover".


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Further thoughts about Ashes:

Track 4, "Cure", has an opening atmosphere that's more reminiscent (to me, anyway) of All About Eve's ill-fated fourth album Ultraviolet, which might have been inspired to some extent by the Cocteau Twins. And this on an album that - to perhaps interpret your "noisy" problem - includes some stuff that I see as black metal. Interesting. Confusing. I'll keep on listening.

Track 6, "Shadowman": think Anathema.


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I like Tristania very much.

This album has 7 tracks, 3 of them with none brutal vocals.

It's a very good album, Cure and Equilibrium are fantastic songs, i also liked Circus, Endogenisis and Shadowman.

But in overall differs from the previous ones.

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That sounds nice =)

I like the sound evolution in some bands (see theGathering :flower: )...let's wait and see what these people are capable to show (I mean, let's wait until the CD is released in Spain :|).

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I have the album at last...

...and well, I am not going to tell anything yet, because I have just listened to it few times...but I'm not liking it so much :-?. Maybe when I listen to it more often, I'll get the sound, but right now... :-?

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That's how I felt at first. I'm still confused about the apparent variety of musical styles. It's almost as though they're trying out various things to see what we, the listeners, think.


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Yeah, but it's a bit weird how they have mixed up the songs...right now I'm getting into Shadowman and Circus, but it's hard to get a point so soon...but knowing me I think I'll finishing liking it :), for example a felt the same as now the first time I listened to "HTMAP?" and right now is one of my favourites albums ever :D

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I heard the album a couple of times and i think ...it's just ok.
Not great,just ok.

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yeah ... I need to listen to this LP again... cause i haven't been convinced yet :-|


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I want this album...

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I love this album... but it's definitely a hard nut to crack... :)
But it's getting better and better every time I listen to it... and that's for sure more than 100 times... and still growing..:)

My favorites are Shadowman, Endogenisis and Bird at the moment.. but they change sometimes... :)

Nevertheless I kind of hope they're playing with more symphonic and electronic elements on the next album again... but not sound exactly the same as WOG... but i suppose there's no reason for that fear in this case... :) I suppose whatever they do it'll be great

Imho some songs have a little Gathering feeling (Equilibrium)...

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listened to it thrice in a store last week ... i still don't like it


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I think it's pretty good. I like World of Glass better, though.

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is tristania the band that had naked ladies laying on stones on one of their album covers years ago?

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right PHM, you're talkin' about "Beyond the Veil" LP


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yo, i hear you knockin' dawg.

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hoang wrote:
listened to it thrice in a store last week ... i still don't like it

you dislike all songs? hard to imagine... Equilibrium for example has a small gathering feeling in it imho...

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as far as i'm concerned, it can take several days (sometimes many months) to appreciate an album.

so, i can change my mind :green:

Currently, the last Tristania is listenable in many music places... if Equilibrium sounds like The Gathering (which era?), i'll take a pleasure to listen to this track again ... for sure :P :wink:


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Ok, then Ashes probably needs years in your case.. :green:

Hmm... sorry... can't really explain..imho it has a sort of Gathering atmosphere... a little bit psychedelic or so... don't know if I'm the only one who thinks so... :)

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Ok, then Ashes probably needs years in your case.. :green:

ahahahha :lol: ... yep, you're right :green:


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