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To thread einai afiervmeno sto klasiko punk(oxi NY hardcore klp o vaggos einai o eidikos se ayto)Egv tha anaferthv sto klasiko amerikaniko punk.Apo tis adynamies mou afou to akouv 20 xronia :o pvs perasan :o
To punk sthn amerikh dhmiourgithike sthn kalifornia to 1980 apo 2 istorikes etairies:Thn Alternative Tentacles(Dead Kennedys) kai thn SST(Husker Du,Black Flag).Ta 3 ayta group einai kai ta oriaka tou eidous.
Na kanv kai mia protinomenh diskografia gia osous goustaroun gkazia timia kai thimomena :P
Dead Kennedys-ola
Black Flag-ola kyrivs Damaged,My War,first four years,Everything Went Black
Husker Du-Land Speed Record,Everything Falls Apart,Zen Arcade,New Day Rising,Flip Your Wig
Germs-M.I.A.
Minor Threat-ola
T.S.O.L.-Dance With Me
Fugazi-13 songs
Bad Religion-How Could Hell Be Any Worse,Into the Unknown,Suffer,No Control,Against The Grain
Wipers-Is This Real?
The Adolescents-Same

kai merika eksvfilla...pou lene osa 1000 lekseis
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NP Husker Du-Data Control
Afieromeno se Ripper ,Sophie,KJP

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Ton teleutaio kairo to exo psilorixei sto punk..bad religion,dead kennedies ktl. Tha tsekarw kai ta ypoloipa pou den ixera.Thanx :wink:

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thanx atnwni!!8a to psaksw oso mporw to 8ema!!!
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Thanx Antwnh! Re sy, ta prwta Bad Religion pou 8a ta brw?
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Ennoeis se CD? apo oti kserv exoun vgei ola apo thn Epitaph.Tvra se vinilio...

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to kainourgio bad religion ekykloforhse akousa 3 kommatia sto rhythm records, poly kalo.

punk-rock:Lagwagon,Lawrence arms,NOFX,ANtiflag,No use for a name,Propaghandi,Sick of it all,Strung out,less than jake,Rancid,Ignite

oi/street punk:The Business,Sham 69,The oppressed,Exploited,Dropkick Murphys,Discipline(to deutero kalytero ollandiko sygkrothma ever),Stiff little fingers,Roger Miret and the Disasters,The Distillers

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To oi/street punk einai kathara vretaniko "kyma".Oi Stiff Little Fingers htan oi prvtoi kai oi kalyteroi-kai oi ydeologika katharoteroi.
OI NOFX Rancid klp einai h metagenesterh US genia.
Tha pv edv kati ksekathara:Ta onomata poy anefera sto arxiko mou post htan oxi mono ta prvtopora alla me diafora kai ta kalytera.Kai epishs ezhsan kai dhmiourgisan se mia epoxh/xvra opou ayto poy ekanan "ponouse" pragmatika kai khnhgithikan agria.Respect 8)

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Oi The Business einai to kalytero punk sygkrothma ston kosmo.Ola ta sygkrothmata pou anaferontai sthn kathgoria oi/street punk einai gkroupares pou a3izoun apolytou sevasmou kai einai punk sthn pio agnh morfh tou.

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Oh yes...alla se diaforetikh epoxh.Ayto lev

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arxes 80 3ekinhsan oi business, oi sham 69 klp

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Gia amerikh mhlousa oxi thn vretania- to topic einai gia to amerikaniko punk.Pvs ksekinise

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Thanx Antwnh! Re sy, ta prwta Bad Religion pou 8a ta brw?

Oi Bad Religion kykloforhsan me thn seira:

1. "Bad Religion" EP (1981)
2. "How Could Hell Be Any Worse?" (1982)
3. "Into The Unknown" (1983)
4. "Back To The Known" EP (1984)

Meta evgalan to "Suffer" en etei 1987. Otidhpote vghke meta apo auta ta tessera prwta mporeis na to vreis opoudhpote kai se poly xamhles times.

Ta 1, 2 kai 4 mporeis na ta vreis oloklhra (syn kapoia kommatia pou eixan mpei se mia syllogh) sto CD "80-85". Auto to CD prosfata epanekdo8hke me ton titlo kai to artwork tou prwtou tous album "How Could Hell Be Any Worse?", opote mallon kalytera na psa3eis gia auto. To "How Could Hell Be Any Worse?" einai kai to album tous pou einai poly pio konta sto agno punk, se sxesh me to punk rock twn epomenwn diskwn. Oso gia to "Into The Unknown", den exei na kanei me tous pragmatikous Bad Religion opws tous 3eroume, afou ousiastika prokeitai gia ena space rock album (an kaneis exei allh apopsh, as prosdiorisei) me plhktra kai megala kommatia kai einai ena album pou epefere dialysh sto sygkrothma tote (an kai einai foveros diskos). Gi' auto kai epestrepsan meta me to "Back To The Known" EP. :wink: To "Into The Unknown" aplws den yparxei periptwsh na to vreis pou8ena. Alla akomh kai an to vreis, h timh tou 8a exei 3efygei ypervolika poly. H foverh diaforetikothta tou exei odhghsei to sygkrothma sthn apofash na mhn epanekdo8ei pote - kakws, poly kakws. Proswpika to eixa katevasei oloklhro mazi me to artwork apo mia die8ynsh h opoia den fainetai na leitourgei auth thn stigmh. Opoios endiaferetai as mou pei.

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KJP wrote:
pantelis79 wrote:
Thanx Antwnh! Re sy, ta prwta Bad Religion pou 8a ta brw?

Oi Bad Religion kykloforhsan me thn seira:

1. "Bad Religion" EP (1981)
2. "How Could Hell Be Any Worse?" (1982)
3. "Into The Unknown" (1983)
4. "Back To The Known" EP (1984)

Meta evgalan to "Suffer" en etei 1987. Otidhpote vghke meta apo auta ta tessera prwta mporeis na to vreis opoudhpote kai se poly xamhles times.

Ta 1, 2 kai 4 mporeis na ta vreis oloklhra (syn kapoia kommatia pou eixan mpei se mia syllogh) sto CD "80-85". Auto to CD prosfata epanekdo8hke me ton titlo kai to artwork tou prwtou tous album "How Could Hell Be Any Worse?", opote mallon kalytera na psa3eis gia auto. To "How Could Hell Be Any Worse?" einai kai to album tous pou einai poly pio konta sto agno punk, se sxesh me to punk rock twn epomenwn diskwn. Oso gia to "Into The Unknown", den exei na kanei me tous pragmatikous Bad Religion opws tous 3eroume, afou ousiastika prokeitai gia ena space rock album (an kaneis exei allh apopsh, as prosdiorisei) me plhktra kai megala kommatia kai einai ena album pou epefere dialysh sto sygkrothma tote (an kai einai foveros diskos). Gi' auto kai epestrepsan meta me to "Back To The Known" EP. :wink: To "Into The Unknown" aplws den yparxei periptwsh na to vreis pou8ena. Alla akomh kai an to vreis, h timh tou 8a exei 3efygei ypervolika poly. H foverh diaforetikothta tou exei odhghsei to sygkrothma sthn apofash na mhn epanekdo8ei pote - kakws, poly kakws. Proswpika to eixa katevasei oloklhro mazi me to artwork apo mia die8ynsh h opoia den fainetai na leitourgei auth thn stigmh. Opoios endiaferetai as mou pei.


Kwstara, thanx for the info! To "'80-'85" poly pi8anon na to exw, den eimai sigouros. Apo to Suffer kai meta ta exw ta albums. 8a thn psa3w th douleia giati oi Bad Religion einai 8eoi!

P.S. To 3erete oti o Gregg Graffin einai ka8hghths Panepisthmiou?
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P.S. To 3erete oti o Gregg Graffin einai ka8hghths Panepisthmiou?

Lektoras, gia thn akriveia! :green: Gi' auto exoun oi Bad Religion tetoious api8anous stixous! Einai a3ioshmeiwto to oti h Epitaph exei kykloforhsei ena DVD tou 8eou Noam Chomsky, ka8hghth glwssologias (kai foverou anhleou krith ths politiths ths Amerikhs) tou MIT! Prepei na to vroume kapws auto...

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Bravo h Epitaph! Afou exeis entryfhsei toso poly stous BR, 8a 3ereis oti thn Epitaph th dhmiourghse o Brett Gurewitz! :wink: Sygkrothma me punk apopsh.
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To 80-85 nomizv einai deleted apo thn Epitaph...Epishs ena poly cult kai aksiologo group pou einai meros tou "US kymatos" -an kai kanadoi-einai oi D.O.A.

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hey u punk what are u looking for :tw: ............

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Thn epoxh pou arxisa na akouv amerikaniko punk sta mesa tvn 80's oi Bad Religion htan teleivs agnvstoi...akoma kai oi T.S.O.L.(true sounds of liberty)htan gnvstoteroi.Antitheta oi Dead Kennedys htan hdh ena sxedon muthiko onoma.To US punk htan auto pou apedeikse oti punk den einai mono dilepta speedarista kommatia kai htan kyrivs 3 diskoi pou to ekanan ayto:Youth Of Amerika(Wipers) Zen Arcade(Husker Du) kai My War(Black Flag).To Zen Arcade periexei to Reoccuring Dreams ena 15lepto instrumental apisteyta porvtiko kai sklhro pou espase olous tous kanones tou punk :o

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15lepto? Endiaferon...nomizw eida kati diskakia twn Husker Du se Metropolis h Patsh poly fthna.

Apo ta gnwsta tou xwrou pantws pshfizw dagkwto Dead Kennedys:-)
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Ta Husker Du pou mporeis na vreis ftina einai ayta pou evgalan sthn Warner dhl ta 2 teleytaia tous prin dialythoun.Ayta kanoun 6.90 sto Metropolis.Einai to Candy Apple Grey
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Se ayta ta albums plevn den paizoun akrivos punk o hxos tous einai pio melodikos kai refined(ekseresh to varvato Crystal pou anoigei to CAG).Alla san yliko einai ta pio oloklhromena poy ekanan pote.Ta punk albums tvn Husker Du einai ayta pou vgikan sthn SST(ayta pou anefera sthn arxh) kai san US cds einai pio akriva(egv ta exv se vinilia!)

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