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to ten htan kalytero se mousikh, se hits,se ola.O vedder poly anwteros frontman kai idanikos gia na ginei eidwlo ths genias tou kai gamw ta atoma.O kosmos einai trelos.

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Den symfwnw apolyta se ayto, alla o Kurt katafere kai exefrase mia oloklhrh genia tote... Htane antistar kai egine ths modas to antistar... Forouse skimena tzina eginan ths modas... Ase pou o Kurt htane kai enas apo tous pio true typous pou exei dei to mousiko sterewma

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Ase pou o Kurt htane kai enas apo tous pio true typous pou exei dei to mousiko sterewma

Vedder kai 3ero pswmi se ayton ton tomea.
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an den eixe ginei olo auto, tote akoma tha zouse o kurt kai isws evgaze kai kana kalo disakaki :P .Ton efage h epityxia gia thn opoia den htan proetoimasmenos kai h euaisthisia tou.

Vasika h genia thn opoia e3efrase, ton skotwse telika.

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O Vedder omws pote den eixe toso periergo image...
O Kurt an den ton efage h poutana akoma kai ekei htane true...

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an den eixe ginei olo auto, tote akoma tha zouse o kurt kai isws evgaze kai kana kalo disakaki :P .Ton efage h epityxia gia thn opoia den htan proetoimasmenos kai h euaisthisia tou.

Akribws etsi einai ta pragmata... Den mporouse o Kurt na xeiristei olh ayth th fhmh pou 3afnika apekthse. Ase pou me ayth thn kariola pou pantreythke, dikaiologeitai h aytoktonia (an den ebale ayth na ton skotwsoun - ola einai pi8ana...)
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siga mhn eftaige h courtney.Oute egw thn paw, alla enta3ei o cobain eixe ena swro psyxologika provlhmata...den ante3e sthn piesh, sa to ronaldo ston teliko tou 98, ena pragma, alla me poly pio thliveres synepeies.

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O Kurt htane periergos eksarxhs... Den ton "xtyphse" h fhmh... Vevaia meta egine ena megalo fortio, alla gia arketo diasthma to eixe sthn plath tou...



(Pantws egw pisteyw oti ton efage h kargiola, ayto pisteya xronia twra kai synexizw na to pisteyw)

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pantws to kainourgio singlaki ths apo to America's sweetheart, einai poly gamato.Mazi me to doll parts ta mona kala kommatia pou exw akousei apo authn.Exw arxisei kai th lypamai pantws, exei arxisei kai 3efeugei entelws.

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Asxeto, alla poioi 5 exoun pshfisei Nirvana sto poll "Oi kalyteroi ths genias twn sklhrwn"? Pearl Jam pshfisame o Vaggelhs, o Rough_Silk, o Johnny Yen, egw ki allos enas. Oi Nirvana pou brhkane 5 pshfous???? :green:
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xoxoxo... perimene 8a paroun allh mia apo oti fainetai... KANTES 6 :green: :green: :green: :green: :green:

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Fantazomai oti milate gia tis pshfous twn Nirvana, e? Na, kati tetoia blepw kai mou th spane oi Nirvana. An einai dynaton na einai kalyteroi apo tous Pearl Jam... Mh sas akousei o Johnny Yen, giati 8a sas kataspara3ei!!!! :green:
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An den itan oi pumpkins sto poll kai go nirvana tha psifiza :P Simfono iperektimimenoi,alla gamane etsi ki alliws!

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Otan ena album to xarakthrizeis diamanti, to kaneis (syn ths allhs) me krithrio th diaxronikothta. Bebaia den prolabe akoma na to agkaliasei o xronos, alla p.x. den einai oute Energetic Dissasembly, Control And Resistance, oute Perfect Symmetry, oute Into the everflow, oute Images and words, oute Moments, oute Saviour Machine II, oute Rage for Order, oute Murder of Crows, oute Nothingface, oute Into the pandemonium, oute 666 international, oute carheart...

Nai alla ksexnas to thema tis ipokeimenikotitas.As poume ta perissotera apo auta pou anafereis den ta theoro kan diamantia,diladi se peirakse pou kapoia entypa (profanws, den ksero) tha egrapsan oti oi pos exoun vgalei diamantia kai einai to kalitero prog metal(an kai diafono ston xaraktirismo) sxima simera?? Gia na katalaveis ti aristourgima einai to perfect element prepei na katseis na to akouseis polles fores,na vithisteis ston kosmo tou,na diavaseis tous stixous,na siginitheis.....Kai auta einai distixws ligos o kosmos pou ta kanei,eidika stin metal skini.De sou aresei kati? Simfonoi! Alla oxi sxolia tou tipou einai iperektimimenoi ti stigmi pou ta atoma poulane elaxista please :wink:

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kai ego nirvana psifisa.Den xero an einai kaliteroi h; oxi alla autous sindiaza apo mikros me tin skini tou seatlle(kalos h' kakos)
Den mporo na allaxo tora auto pou pisteua edo kai deka xronia.Mporo omos na dexto kai tous ypoloipous.

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Alla oxi sxolia tou tipou einai iperektimimenoi ti stigmi pou ta atoma poulane elaxista please :wink:


Den milhsa me gnwmona to poso poulaei to group, alla to pws prootheitai.

Bebaiws kai yparxei ypokeimenikothta. Bebaiws.
Alla kapou ekei gyrw yparxoun kai kapoia (oxi stantard) "xaraktiristika".

P.x. Perfect Element = aristourghma, 2112 = aristourghma.
Ti sxesh twra exei to ena album me to allo? kamia. Allo na les enas para poly kalos diskos, kai allo aristoyrghma.

Telospantwn, yparxoun tosa "ploia" gia na taksideuei kaneis. Ki auto einai para poly kalo. :)

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kai eilikrina den katalaveno pos sindiazeis "pain of salvation" kai "iperektimimenous" :o


den nomizw na anefera pouthena pwlhseis (ektos apo Nightwish - kaoumpoisa - America).
Makari na poulane oloi kai na zoune apo th mousikh.
Alla mou fainetai oti auta ta baftisia parapane.
Dhladh ok, sto xwro tou prog metal baftizoume to perfect element I (pou mou aresei kai perissotero) aristourghma kai diamanti.
Me pio krithrio; Me tis ypoloipes sygxrones kyklofories;
Otan ena album to xarakthrizeis diamanti, to kaneis (syn ths allhs) me krithrio th diaxronikothta. Bebaia den prolabe akoma na to agkaliasei o xronos, alla p.x. den einai oute Energetic Dissasembly, Control And Resistance, oute Perfect Symmetry, oute Into the everflow, oute Images and words, oute Moments, oute Saviour Machine II, oute Rage for Order, oute Murder of Crows, oute Nothingface, oute Into the pandemonium, oute 666 international, oute carheart...
Afou esy les oti kritirio einai h diaxronikothta,tote pws mas vazeis edw to murder of crows(pou einai persino nomizw),to carheart(epishs an den kanw lathos),to 666 den nomizw na einai paliotero tou P Element pou vgike to 2000 klp.
Entwmetaksei mia prosopikh apopsh einai oti to perfect kai to remedy lane einai klaseis anwtero ap'ola osa anaferes(an kai me kapoia den ginetai na yparksei sygrish,teleiws diaforetika pragmata). Dld poios ekane aristourgima kai klasiko to perfect symmetry?????imarton auto dld einai apo ta xeirotera cd pou exw parei pote,ena wraio tragoudi exei olo ki olo,kai to pira epeidh akouga tetoies istories. ara to ti einai aristourgima gia ton kathena einai prosopiko thema,ki oxi antikeimeniko. gia ton tropo pou proothountai oute logos,den exw katalavei gia poia proothish milas,apo th mikrh inside out,tis spanies kai elaxistes diafimiseis?ti allo?h proothish den einai kalh,ki autos einai enas logos pou to sygrotima den poulaei poly,kai den poulaei oute kata dianoia tou oso aksize. tous na tous leme yperektimimenous einai asteio.

gia dream theater arkei na milisei to scenes from a memory.an valeis kai to images and words,prepei na meinei opoiosdipote katadikasmenos sth siwph,para na tous sxoliasei.

oi nightwish skeftikane kai kanane kati pou den ekane kaneis allos,poulisane kai magkia tous. den kserw apo poia apopsh einai yperektimenoi kathws den nomizw kaneis na tous thewrei megalh mpanta kai spoudaia.apla poulane kai kala kanoun,xilies fores autoi para kati alloi.emena mou arkei to prwto tous album pou einai kai gamw ta album,kai to deutero pou einai epishs tromero.

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kai eilikrina den katalaveno pos sindiazeis "pain of salvation" kai "iperektimimenous" :o


den nomizw na anefera pouthena pwlhseis (ektos apo Nightwish - kaoumpoisa - America).
Makari na poulane oloi kai na zoune apo th mousikh.
Alla mou fainetai oti auta ta baftisia parapane.
Dhladh ok, sto xwro tou prog metal baftizoume to perfect element I (pou mou aresei kai perissotero) aristourghma kai diamanti.
Me pio krithrio; Me tis ypoloipes sygxrones kyklofories;
Otan ena album to xarakthrizeis diamanti, to kaneis (syn ths allhs) me krithrio th diaxronikothta. Bebaia den prolabe akoma na to agkaliasei o xronos, alla p.x. den einai oute Energetic Dissasembly, Control And Resistance, oute Perfect Symmetry, oute Into the everflow, oute Images and words, oute Moments, oute Saviour Machine II, oute Rage for Order, oute Murder of Crows, oute Nothingface, oute Into the pandemonium, oute 666 international, oute carheart...
Afou esy les oti kritirio einai h diaxronikothta,tote pws mas vazeis edw to murder of crows(pou einai persino nomizw),to carheart(epishs an den kanw lathos),to 666 den nomizw na einai paliotero tou P Element pou vgike to 2000 klp.
Entwmetaksei mia prosopikh apopsh einai oti to perfect kai to remedy lane einai klaseis anwtero ap'ola osa anaferes(an kai me kapoia den ginetai na yparksei sygrish,teleiws diaforetika pragmata). Dld poios ekane aristourgima kai klasiko to perfect symmetry?????imarton auto dld einai apo ta xeirotera cd pou exw parei pote,ena wraio tragoudi exei olo ki olo,kai to pira epeidh akouga tetoies istories. ara to ti einai aristourgima gia ton kathena einai prosopiko thema,ki oxi antikeimeniko. gia ton tropo pou proothountai oute logos,den exw katalavei gia poia proothish milas,apo th mikrh inside out,tis spanies kai elaxistes diafimiseis?ti allo?h proothish den einai kalh,ki autos einai enas logos pou to sygrotima den poulaei poly,kai den poulaei oute kata dianoia tou oso aksize. tous na tous leme yperektimimenous einai asteio.

gia dream theater arkei na milisei to scenes from a memory.an valeis kai to images and words,prepei na meinei opoiosdipote katadikasmenos sth siwph,para na tous sxoliasei.

oi nightwish skeftikane kai kanane kati pou den ekane kaneis allos,poulisane kai magkia tous. den kserw apo poia apopsh einai yperektimenoi kathws den nomizw kaneis na tous thewrei megalh mpanta kai spoudaia.apla poulane kai kala kanoun,xilies fores autoi para kati alloi.emena mou arkei to prwto tous album pou einai kai gamw ta album,kai to deutero pou einai epishs tromero.


Den anaferw san mono krithrio th diaxronikothta.

Toulaxiston gia Watchtower kai Fates Warning, mh rwtas emena, rwta ton Petrucci kai ton Portnoy(gggggxg ftou) giati to pies (ektos twn Rush) htan oi epirroes tous.

Eidika to Perfect Symmetry, oi Dream Theater ekanan oti o Foivos ston Karvela.

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oi nightwish skeftikane kai kanane kati pou den ekane kaneis allos,poulisane kai magkia tous.


dhladh ti skefthkane pou den exei kanei pote kanenas allos;

To oti poulhsane, symfwnw magkia toys.
Kai kathe sygkrothma makari na zei apoth mousikh.
Den me endiaferei an p.x. oi Rhapsody bgazoun trela fragka, enw thn idia stigmh oi Sieges Even psaxnoun gia etaireia.

Alla to na anaferontai san diamantia, roumpinia, smaragdia kai aristourghmata, mou deinei aformh gia sxolia.

An kanw mia souma, mexri twra, ws yperektimhsh thewrhsa oti einai h proothhsh (periodika, radio, tv -> bale mad na deis nightwish) + to oti anaferontai apo twra se albums ws diamantia kai aristourghmata.

Kai tous Pain of Salvation tous karaproothhse to hammer, tvwar, radio (asxeto an den bgalane fragka).

Den zhleuw giati tous tade pou den sympathw toys proothhsane, enw tous deina pou yperagapw oxi kai toso.

Apla lew kapoia pragmata pou ginontai.


Kai kati akoma: Perfect Symmetry = o orismos ths proodeutikothtas sto metal (toulaxiston)

ta murder of crows, 666 int, carheart einai proswpikh problepsh :D

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Sxetika me tous Nirvana dhl ton Cobain:To Never Mind einai ena poly kalo album alla nomizv toso to Ten (oso kai to Badmotorfinger)htan kalytera.H terastia epityxia tou omvs efere ton sklhro hxo sto proskinio kai mono gia ayto to Never Mind aksizei kathe grammario ths fimis tou.To oti o Vedder einai poly kalytero eidolo apo enan maniokatathliptiko typo opvs o Cobain oute syzithsh.Nai Giorgo o Cobain htan true alla artist den htan.Mporei na ypefere,isvs-lev isvs-na htan o eilikrinesteros olvn alla ayto den ton kanei kai spoudaio mousiko.
O Steve Tyler tvn Aerosmith-o opoios sigoura exei dei polla-eixe pei gia ton Cobain se mia synenteyksh sto Pop&Rock to '97:
""Pisteyv oti an den htan oi rock managers o Kurt tha htan akomh mazi mas.To paidi eixe provlhmata kai oi managers to hkseran.Eixe agorasei ena oplo kai oi managers to hkseran.Skeftotan diarkvs na pethanei kai oi managers to hkseran.Epairne hrvinh kai oi managers to hkseran.Ti mas deinei o syndiasmos?""
Thn Courtney thn sixainomai...apo oso thn thimamai einai monimos psvnismenh me thn dimosiothta kai thn fimh-kai thn preza.Otan epaize sto Larry Flint thn pernagane synexeia apo eksetaseis gia na einai sigouroi oti tha thn vgalei thn tainia kai den tha thn mazeyoune lipothimh apo kanena dvmatio ksenodoxeiou.Apo mousikh kai ermeineia xalia(h sthn kalyterh periptvsh-thn epoxh tou DollParts-"daneismena" apo ton makarith).Yparxei xeirotero protypo gia ena neo koritsi?
PS.To poia tragoudistria thevrv idaniko protypo gia ena koritsi thn kserete :green:

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